Thread:

Canning low sugar blackberry jam

Post:

objectives

Author:

Rhonda Schalk

Posted Date:

October 2, 2012 4:13 PM

Shanda,

Looking at Objective 1.1: “Given pictures of safe and unsafe practices in the kitchen, the learner will express the importance of the safe practice with 100% accuracy. (concept-application; TA II.A-B)” I think that it’s really principle-application. According to the book, “concepts are categories we use for simplifying the world” whereas “principles and rules express relationships between concepts” (p. 126). So, I would think that safe practices would be more rules that need to be followed in the kitchen.

Therefore, your initial presentation would follow the Eg-rule or the rule-eg prescription from Dave’s slideshow. Then you could use integration, organization, elaboration or combinations of them for the generative strategy. However, this check point wasn’t about this. (Bravo on getting it done early!) Actually, re-reading this, I think this is exactly what you did.

For objective 1.2: Jami pointed out in my objectives that I might not have the proficiency defined well enough. I think that in this case, yours also isn’t as well defined as it could be. (I’m pointing out what Jami said because I might not know what I’m talking about here.) In looking at your T-F questions, you have “A bulging lid is not caused by unsanitary practices” and “an unsanitary jar of jam’s lid can bulge.” These are basically the same question, the only difference is one is false whereas the other is true.

I can see why you had trouble labeling your objectives. I questioned and re-questioned what I thought they should be.

Rhonda

Thread:

Canning low sugar blackberry jam

Post:

concepts versus procedures

Author:

David Knowlton

Posted Date:

October 3, 2012 8:15 AM

Wow, great feedback from Rhonda in its detail and that she explained why she was saying what she was saying! 

Now, Rhonda just busted me, actually!  LOL!  How?  Well, I read Shanda's objective as follows:

Given pictures of safe and unsafe practices in the kitchen, the learner will express
the importance of the safe practice with 100% accuracy. (concept-application; TA II.A-B)

When I read it, I thought, "Nice objective and nicely labeled."  But, I am now arguing with myself--thanks to Rhonda.  I think she's absolutely right!  This is a principle/rule!  so, a question and a point:

the question:  Is it principle-recall?  Or, is it principle-application?  Defend your answer.

the point:  Everyone:  triple check each and every objective.  I honestly think that if I had been working with Shanda on this project, i would have kept it as a concept (at least until I realized that the strategy for concept was feeling weird here).  So, if I can screw this up (and I've been using the Morrison model for a long time, folks), then you should triple check the labels of every objective that you have.

Dave

 

Thread:

Canning low sugar blackberry jam

Post:

principle/recall

Author:

Rhonda Schalk

Posted Date:

October 3, 2012 8:11 PM

Shanda's original objective was marked concept/application and I thought it should be principle/application and I explained why. Then Dave came along and said, "Is it principle-recall?"


OK, so I was happily going along with the application while really thinking about the first part of the label. Looking at the objective:

Given pictures of safe and unsafe practices in the kitchen, the learner will express
the importance of the safe practice with 100% accuracy. (concept-application; TA II.A-B)



I do think it should be principle/recall because the verb is "will express". This tells us that it's recall rather than procedure. If it were procedure the verb would be something like "will demonstrate". I don't remember what her test questions were, but with "will express" then her question could be "List the safe and unsafe practices you find in the following pictures." (Actually I think it was something like this.)

Rhonda